What is Agenda REALLY for?

Interesting thoughts. Yes, the bullet journal thing might be a good way for me to go, perhaps letting OmniFocus just be OmniFocus. I used to use Day One, but decided reluctantly to leave it behind when it moved to a subscription model, so a replacement for that is most welcome.

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Nice feedbacks. On my part, I use Agenda alongside Omnifocus. I prefer to separate my notes from my task manager app. I write my drafts, plans, or extra details on Agenda. And the finalized and structured tasks on my Task Manager. Before, I tend to just dump everything in Omnifocus and I get overwhelmed with the extra details. I also do not want to mix my notes with all tasks because I might overlook them. With Agenda, life is much more simpler now that before.

I have tried to use Omnioutliner with Omnifocus but there’s a missing link that’s not being adressed. I’ve used Bear Notes also (love the UI and features) but it’s not calendar-based and I am not really into subscription-based app.

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Personnally I wanted to split task management / meetings notes & working notes / following up with other people.

So it leads to

  • Omnifocus : task management with references
  • Ulysses : preparation notes and formal meetings notes, i.e. everything that can be exported at some moment
  • Agenda : following up with people on différent subjects.

Each part is link to each other because in Omnifocus tasks I may have a reminder to follow up with somebody, and when doing so I will add the result to Agenda.
Once the project is finished, I’ll export it as Markdown from Agenda to Ulysses for references.

There are some more complex details, but here is the big picture.

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The way I’m moving is to treat Agenda as a replacement to Notes and to use it alongside Things. My note-taking needs are fairly straightforward – except that I need to move across them in an organised way that isn’t possible in Notes. I even think Agenda can be suitable for long-term note storage. In other words: my note-reading needs are more complex than my note-taking needs. Agenda seems to be solving this problem for me.

What I miss now is an “Inbox” where I can just dump notes, coming back to them to organise later; the virtue here is as with Things, simply being able to get something down, and then worrying that it’s in the right category and project later on. Do please give us an Inbox! :smiley:

S.

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Me too! For some reason I’ve never felt at home with Evernote, but I think Agenda offers me the perfect balance between notes, research & actually getting things done, & I’m very much looking forward to making lots of use of it

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We have some ideas in this direction, stay tuned!

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It’s how I intend to try and tackle Agenda as well. I am using it to replace the default Notes.app in the Mac. I have hundreds of the notes and I am unable to track them these days. Things is still my go-to task management, so let’s see how well Agenda will help me organize my thoughts.

I am still not able to connect with how linking to calendar is useful to me - if I launched Calendar, I don’t see my Agenda notes in there (I don’t think it does) and yet, Agenda does not have a weekly/monthly Calendar view… so, the point of linking calendar is just assigning a “Created” date to the notes, which is what most notes taking app have anyway.

I think this app will be hard for everyday people to wrap their mind around it. The fact that it won Apple Design Award speaks volume of its design but it does take some education to appreciate it to its fullest.

After months of using Agenda, this is how I incorporated it to my workflow. First of all, this app has become very useful on what I do in life. I am a Foreign Language and a Sign Language Teacher, Sign Language Interpreter and organize events for the Deaf Community. I follow the GTD method, but not strictly. So I tried to adapt new methods and whatever suits my needs. I have been struggling very much before on my fixed meetings / schedules and needed an app that integrates notes and calendars. Prayers answered thru Agenda!

I use these apps for my workflow:

  1. Calendar (Mac) and Calendars 5 by Readdle (iOS). I used before Fantastical 2 in my iPhone but they don’t support yet URL Links so I couldn’t open my Agenda notes in ios. I put all my Scheduled Events (Fixed Events) in my Calendar.

  2. Agenda (Mac and IOS) for Calendar Scheduled Events (Fixed Events).

a.) First of all, all notes incorporated with Scheduled events are in my Agenda. Agenda really helped me a lot to easily locate notes I have for a specific and scheduled event. Before, I needed to search for them in lots of cluttered files. I was so stressed that time.

b.) Secondly, I also use my Agenda for Different Projects for the Deaf Community. So I have categories for Personal, Professional, Languages, and Deaf Community. And in each Category I have different Projects. (I do hope that Subprojects would be implemented because it’s important for my Project Management.) All my Project notes, ideas and important things are written here.

c.) Thirdly, I also write drafts for my Outlines / To Do Lists on Agenda before transferring them to Omnifocus. (So thanks a lot for the IOS app because I always bring my iphone with me.)

  1. Omnifocus (Mac and IOS) - after writing the outline or draft of my Tasks and To do lists, I transfer everything to Omnifocus. Before, I put everything in my Omnifocus and I became overwhelmed with all the information. But now, it’s more organized and less cluttered than before. If I check my to do lists and routines, it’s easier for me now to do my tasks. I know that I could write my To do lists on Agenda. But, I have Repetitive taks that are in Omnifocus, that Agenda does not support yet.

  2. Omniplan for my Large Projects (I also write my first draft on Agenda before transferring them to Omniplan.)

  • I am still on the process of improving and figuring out other usage of Agenda. Hope this helps.
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Thank you! It does :blush:

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I’m happy it helped you. Agenda completed the missing link to my workflow and now it’s complete. Very satisfied now!

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Excellent - good to be part of the circle! :+1::blush:

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Hi kaaeronpaul,

I Also use Omnifocus, omniplan, fantastical, workflow, due and now adding Agenda to my arsenal to organize all my projects but i have felt at times resistance to using Agenda despite like in it, i feel like all the programs are gears that run with me but adding Agenda makes them grind as i have not found yet how to properly integrate it without having redundancy. now that they released the X callback i might be able to use workflow to add the note and place the task in omnifocus. not sure how but hopeful.:thinking:

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Did you write these somewhere else or is it still upcoming here? :slight_smile:

Some are, like this one:

And some are still to come…

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How Agenda is Organized

Hi folks, I’m pretty new to Agenda, and I’m having a bit of a rough time figuring out how it fits into my workflows. But I’m pretty sure it does fit in, so I put together this ugly but I think effective diagram to make sure I know how it’s structured. Comments/criticisms are welcome…

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You can pretty much structure Agenda how you want! However, one concept I found really useful to help me, was the idea that a Project generally has a beginning, a middle and an end. (Lots of exceptions of course). And that one should try to work with fairly small, short projects. This makes it easier for using Agenda for planning actual work - I need to work on this project and that project today.

If you don’t do this, you just end up using the structure as a file system like Finder. (Of course for reference materials etc, that don’t have a start and end to them, it is just a filling system)

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Here’s how I think of it:

  • A category is a collection of categories or projects
  • A project is a collection of notes

That’s really it.

I will point out that afaik there’s not a formal concept of “Task” in Agenda. Some people consider checklists to represent tasks. Others might use a note’s Done status to indicate that. I just point this out to say that Agenda’s formal structure is essentially Categories -> Projects -> Notes. It is the lower-level tools within Notes that allow you to represent Tasks, but it is not itself a first-class formal concept.

So that’s the left and center columns :slight_smile:

The right column is certainly one example of how you can organize your notes, and I think is a fine example. I also really like @trebso’s suggestion that a project is something that can end. A sort of “meta” concept that ties these together is you can think of an Agenda project as a single document – so in your example, the document may be a customized reference manual. In @trebso’s case, the single document may be a project plan. I also have journals, which I’d describe as a slightly different sort of document.

I hope that’s not too much detail for you to think about… but given that you took the time to put together this graphic, I suspect you find some value in analyzing the structure a bit more.

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This is great, @Pat_Maddox, thank you! I’m honestly still struggling to figure out how to use Agenda/incorporate it into my workflow. I feel like it will be great once I “figure it out’, but I keep not getting there. Any advice/tutorials/articles you can point me to would be greatly appreciated.

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It can take some time to get a good feel for it… it’s a pretty flexible program. I’ve been using it for a little over a year and how I use it continues to evolve. There are lots of posts in this forum about how people are using it.

What are you trying to accomplish? Perhaps we can help you use Agenda to do that.

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Yeah, good question. It’s really pretty simple for me - I want to use it to take (and easily find) notes, and possibly also as a project manager (though I think Notion is probably a better fit for that).