Hierarchy Thoughts



Im an extensive user of:

  • Apple notes (4000+ notes)
  • Things (used to use Omnifocus)
  • OmniOutliner (since it came out)
  • Evernote (4000+ notes)

You new tool has great promise. In my mind though Im trying to justify why I would switch. So Ive been testing and curious about a few things.

  1. Most of my heirarchy’s notes look like this:
    Topic > Subtopic > Subtopic > Subtopic > Subtopic > Note

Research > Funnels > Ryan Levesque > Ask Program > Module 1 > Notes

This is the extreme case but also the most common. Dozens of examples using this deep of hierarchy.

The problem with research and taking notes is the data can get unwieldly if I cannot organize large amounts of data in hierarchy like this…unless you have a better way.

The reason OmniOutliner was so successful was this exact reason. Im wondering how you are thinking about this issue? Am I missing something you’ve thought through? Thanks


Don’t think you are missing anything. Really just a question of hours in the day. We would like to support deeper hierarchies, and we will no doubt at some point. We decided for the first version to keep it simple.

Thanks for the feedback!


Thanks Drew. Consider getting the platform right on the desktop before you put all the energy into IOS. In my experience, unless you have deep pockets, it will suck your energy dry. All the best to you guys I think with time it will be a product to switch to.


There are two of us, and we have a lot of experience, so we are confident we can do it.

Frankly, it’s not really an option to not release an iOS app in the short term. We want it just as much as everyone else.


It’s obvious you have a lot of experience. The tool is looking great and you are on to a great idea that I think as it evolves will attract a LOT of users. Keep up the good work as I know you are putting in tons of time and expertise on it. I love the way it looks.

The tool called Things went through a phase where they needed to sort the product out as well and they succeeded. Simple yet accomplishes in a less cluttered way than OmniFocus. I look forward to your future releases.


I’ve said this elsewhere, but I think it’s relevant here …

Why switch?
Evernote has a huge installed base and a broad feature set that solves a broad set of problems.
Agenda is just getting started and should remain highly focused.

Integrate Agenda with Evernote so that Evernote can remain the behemoth master repo of all the things and Agenda can serve as the interface for your timeline-centric note needs.


The ability to use an outline hierarchy is very important. Eg.:

And so on.

I noted a similar comment from Ed Ferrigan.

I use OneNote, which has extensive outline capability, but I like Agenda’s concept of being event- and date-oriented, and it’s a beautiful application.

Please keep at it!


I could also use the outline hierarchy in my taking notes. I use Agenda often for class projects or class notes, and this feature would greatly increase my productivity when using this app.


Outlining does work. The numbers will adapt to the level of indentation.

What is not yet supported are mixing of label types. We will look to doing that in future.

Kind regards,