Thanks for the detailed description. I will spend a bit more time trying to reproduce this, but it seems to be very difficult. I spent 20 minutes trying to make it happen yesterday, and didn’t see it even once. Perhaps leaving the app for a while is part of it, though you say you have seen it happen even when actively editing, so…
I’ll keep trying.
I have prepared a special build that might fix this problem. It is a bit of guesswork.
You can download it for macOS here: Dropbox - Agenda_JumpCursorFix.zip - Simplify your life
Can people experiencing this issue try running with this version — which is further just 9.3.1 — and see if the jumping is still happening?
Drew
Thanks for the response.
Everything I reported yesterday happened in 9.3.1. I updated immediately after my first report three days ago.
Do I understand you correctly that your special build is "just 9.3.1?” If so, what would that change?
I’m game for helping you fix this if I can. But I am, as you might expect, a little reluctant to switch to an experimental version of Agenda with my existing data. Is there a way to do this without putting my data at risk? Can I, for example, create another user in MacOS and import the data from my own iCloud account to that one?
It makes sense for testing purposes to keep using the same data file rather than starting from scratch with a new one, which will typically work better because it’s smaller. How would I go about transferring Agenda data from one user to another?
The special build is 9.3.1 plus the bug fix. But if it is too much trouble, leave it for now. Hopefully it will be tested in due course.
Drew
New info. Pressing the “delete” key also causes the jump. I just selected some text in the middle of a note and attempted to delete it. The delete did not occur, rather the cursor jumped to the bottom of the note — which is where my last edit was.
Could it be that the cursor jumps to the place of the previous edit? Curioser and curiouser…
FWIW, this jump occurred on a different machine, also running Agenda 9.3.1 and MacOS 10.14.6. Same iCloud account, though.
I assume not all deletes trigger it, but just that one, correct?
Indeed, that is my working theory: the selection jumps back to the previous location when this happens. How or why nobody knows at this point, and because it only happens intermittently, it is very difficult to track down.
Right. Not all deletes or returns. So far there’s no pattern that I can discern.
Do you have Agenda open on several devices, using the same iCloud and Agenda accounts?
The problem of the jumping cursor and the ghost list items seems to be related. It is happening not simultaneously, but right after another. Both look like syncing/timing issues with iCloud sync.
I have written up a detailed description I’m going to add to my original (related) report.
I’m on 9.3.2 and experience similar behavior (happens quite often). I’m typing (in a list) and all of a sudden my cursur jumps right to the middle of another list item.
The jumping cursor issue still exists on 10.0.1.
I, too, have been experiencing the jumping cursor. I’m now on 10.0.4 and it keeps happening.
It seems like it happens in two specific scenarios:
For 1, the issue seems to arise when I click to bring focus to Agenda AND place the cursor at the same time. If I then type something, the text will often (but not always) start being inserted at the location where the cursor was when Agenda was last in focus. It’s almost as if Agenda is ignoring where I clicked and simply gets focus.
For 2, it seems related to 1, but maybe this is another issue entirely. Repro steps don’t work 100% of the time, but go something like this:
Thanks. This is good feedback, and actionable. It gives me some clues as to what might be happening. Will investigate.
Returning to this finally, but I am having some trouble figuring out what you are doing. You mention that it happens if you click in Agenda from a different app, and the cursor moves. But I can’t make that happen. Clicking on Agenda brings it to the front, but does not move the cursor. I need a second click to move the cursor.
Can you explain how you are doing this?
Cursor jumping happens multiple times a week for me, and has for as long as I can remember. It’s occurred on multiple versions of MacOS and Agenda (prod and beta).
I will be actively typing in my note and the cursor will jump mid-sentence to the top of the visible portion of the note and continue on as if nothing has happened.
I can only assume that I’m not hitting some sort of key binding that sends me there… otherwise this would be an extremely embarrassing post…
We believe it’s indeed an issue in Agenda and has been there for a long time. We also believe the frequency should be a lot lower in the upcoming version 11 update but we cannot guarantee it is completely eradicated. Therefore if you do find conditions where it happens consistently after certain steps, please let us know as it would be of great help to eliminate any remaining occurrences.
It just happened while I was modifying a template. I’m on Agenda, Version 11.00 (144), and MacOS, Version 10.15.6.
Step 1. I cut (\event-notes(organizer)) (including the space before the open paren):
Step 2. Pasted it at the bottom of the template:
Step 3. Clicked at (near??) the end of the line where I just pasted the text, hit Delete to remove the close paren, and ended up with a jumped cursor and a deleted newline on the line that begins with Purpose.
Thanks
Thanks, that’s very helpful
I see the same behavior often, and have done through multiple app versions. The occurrence is erratic. I rarely use the MacOS app, so I have only noted this in iOS. When the behavior appears, it may disappear as unpredictably as it came. Today, the jumping was frequent enough to make the app use difficult. Closing Agenda from the App Switcher, then opening again resolved the problem. Hope that these observations will be helpful.
Update: I’m happy to say that the 11.1 update should now fix the scroll jumping issues introduced by iOS14. The update is currently going in beta and should be out later the coming week hopefully.
