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PLEASE make this optional.

Yes, definitely.

Just echoing the request for indexing file attachments. I actually haven’t been using Agenda since a few weeks after I bought in, but this feature could bring me back.

The concept of Personal Knowledge Management (PKM) seems to be gaining traction lately, and as the below discussion over on Mac Power Users (and the link that inspired it) shows, the market for PKM apps is quite divided.

â€Șhttps://talk.macpowerusers.com/t/a-comparative-chart-of-modern-notes-apps/14954?u=ryanjamurphy‬

I think Agenda’s extremely well-positioned to take up a lot of space in that market, as it fulfills a lot of the features people look for. (See this list of “requirements” from one of the biggest proponents of so-called “Second Brain” systems, for example.) The main—or only—lacking feature is indexed attachments!

Congrats to the team on what must be a blistering development pace and happy almost-new year!

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Indexing attachments would be a nice feature, but a PKM fits better with apps like DevonThink. Agenda is not ideal for that purpose; it is more focussed on projects, and a time line of notes, rather than a database of all your stuff.

We will consider adding the indexing. Still useful for search etc.

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I get that. I am curious about what weaknesses Agenda has that would make you suggest avoiding it for this purpose, though.

I am an avid user and advocate of DEVONthink. Problem is that the iOS version hasn’t been keeping up with other apps (like Agenda)! DEVONthink To Go doesn’t have feature parity with the desktop DEVONthink. The interface is also lacking, especially when you want to write notes within the app.

For many, PKM apps are synonymous with note-taking apps—the latter term definitely describing Agenda.

Obviously I can’t really argue with the team! Just doing some armchair analysis
 I think adding indexing and doing a bit of marketing in that direction and Agenda will be added to these lists of “PKM” apps as a great alternative.

I think what @drewmccormack is trying to say is that the goal of Agenda is not to become a full-on competitor/replacement for Devonthink, which has a more database-of-all-your-stuff approach. Those apps are often a mix of files and notes, where they are at the same level in terms of hierarchy.

Instead we focus more on the note-taking part where notes can have attachments but attachments can’t be standalone for example. In that sense files are by definition lower in rank than in typical PKM apps perhaps. Agenda can work as a PKM but you’d often use it in combination with files on disk in dropbox, Finder, etc. Or with other apps, for instance like @heyscottyj just talked about in his Nested Folders podcast: Podcast: Actions vs. Reference - Nested Folders Episode 12 - #3 by RosemaryOrchard

So perhaps it’s a matter of definition of what exactly is a PKM, if you think a Devonthink replacement, then Agenda will probably not sway you over, if you see it as a note-taking app, then yes, it certainly can be. And at least for me personally, Agenda is indeed my “Personal Knowledge Management” app, but then again, I have all my files in Dropbox and am not a Devonthink user for example.

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Right. Totally makes sense. There’s dozens of ways of making this work depending on personal preference.

As it happens, Tiago uses Evernote as the “core” PKM app, which also does the attachments-inside-notes bit.

And yes, linking back and forth between apps is a good workaround. My worry is that it’ll dismantle Search efficacy over time. I’d rather not maintain a mental map of which apps hold which items in order to effectively (re)discover relevant items. Keeping every file and note in one app’s search index is the dream.

Merry Christmas!

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