Hi, This seems the most appropriate place to put my comment, sorry about the age of the original post.
Something I believe I mentioned years back was the need not only for images, but the control of the size. There’s a good reason why apple mail, for example, let’s the user choose the size of images he’s sending. Most of what I use Agenda for is note taking. If I have an important image for a project it will probably be in Devonthink or in the project folder.
For the most part if I have an image in Agenda it will be a simple rough reference, or even just a pic of someone I want to remember, etc. Naturally I can also imagine wanting a larger image, but I hope you see my point is to be able to store a small image, reduced by the app as I see appropriate at the time. I don’t want some simple sketch taking up 5mb when a 50kb version will be enough to get the idea across.
I can’t imagine I’m the only one who would like to save disk space where I can (as a photographer I have terabytes of images, but not on my laptop). Please consider adding this relatively simple command to the menu.
And yes of course I could do it with another app, but the whole point of this app is speed and convenience for notes. It could even work as a right-click ‘reduce’ after the fact, or an overall preference that reduces all images to a certain size, with or without a verification.
Ok, anyway, it would be nice.
Thanks for your work on this great app.
I agree with the OP’s comments and trust the Devs to implement the feature consistent with the best manner for the app…as soon as possible. FWIW, currently I restrict my use of the feature, because of the normally large size of the files (photos).
We did make some big improvements to the size of images, such as drawing previews. It now uses JPEG, which is much smaller than the original PNG. I would be surprised if a normal image was 5MB now, though there could be 5MB files left over from when we hadn’t made the change.
In general we take the view that whatever file/image you drag in should be preserved. If you ever drag it out again, you should get exactly the same file/image. In other cases, such as previews of drawings, we now use JPEG to reduce space.
If you have particular examples you want me to test, let me know. I think if you drag in a JPEG photo, it should stay a JPEG photo, and will only be a few hundred kb at most.
Hi, I can’t argue with your logic and if your guiding principle is to always maintain the original then I guess that’s that. I was just thinking of convenience. If I have a photo whose importance is not in the details, I just want a kind of visual reminder, especially for a journal entry. I was wrong to mention sketches as an example since they can be highly compressed, but certainly for photos. Anyway, no worries, it’s just an extra step. I already have had several droppable automator scripts on my desktop for this purpose (ie make the image 400px, 1000px, etc) but I was thinking of your user base.
FWIW, I’ve used the cog wheel option to (1) take a photo with an iPad (iPadOS 13) for insert into a Note and (2) copied a photo from the same iPad Camera Roll and when inserting them into a Note they each ‘came over’ greater than 3meg and not a ‘few hundred KB. Are you by chance using a Mac?
Hmm, the route to the photo will certainly play a role in what you end up with. I will investigate if we are somehow not compressing well using the cog option and using copy. Just to confirm, when you say “copy a photo from the same iPad Camera Roll”, do you mean you go into the Photos app, select a photo, choose Copy, go back to Agenda, and Paste?
Just to be clear, these are normal photos in your photo library, correct?
One issue we do have is that we prefer to preserve whatever file is passed to us. It could be a shock if you are storing important image files, and later find when you export that we converted them all to JPEGs.
Is this how all your images behave? Do you ever see the images being reduced in size? (The last one is a bit smaller. Perhaps that is a case where we get a choice about what data to use.)
99.9% of photos originate from my iDevices to Camera Roll (iCloud). Each could be of a different size, I assume, depending on the particular iDevice and the camera internals of that device. That’s NOT the case for the 3 in the screen grab. Each came to the Camera Roll from an iPad Pro 12.9” (2018). The other .1% can come from text message, email or other and saved to Camera Roll. In that instance, the size of the image that would end up in Agenda would/could be much smaller. So as I (and potentially others) may have indicated, I am NOT looking to preserve archival copies of the images (in their original size) that would find there way to Agenda. That’s why it seems reasonable to me for a user defined option in Settings that would indicate maximum saved/copied photo size. Just a suggestion.
I prefer that the images maintain their size ie that I can keep quality images in Agenda and not have to be concerned about the size. Then if I need or want to use that image again, it’s there and I do not have to track down the original, assuming I can find it.
I haven’t noticed Agenda slowing down at all.
I buy iDevices with enough space to do what I want and not have to worry about it.
If you have a large file, you can always put a link.
I think the answer in the end will be to provide commands that people can use to reduce the image size, should they choose. The default would still be to begin with the original file, I think.
Interested to know if this feature to adjust size of attachment is being considered?
Related question: if agenda maintains filesize/format, does it mean that “viewing” the attachment doesnt make any difference ? Meaning, inline takes as much space as the full width?
If i import/attach a photo from my iOS library or taken directly from camera, I was asking/wondering whether the file size occupied changes. Meaning, if i display it as inline, does it only take up kb, whereas full-width image takes 4mb.
I think i know the answer—same regardless of display/viewing option—but thought to ask to verify
We always retain the original attachment, even if we display it at a lower resolution. It would not be nice if you dropped a document in, and when you exported it later, you got some poorer version. That’s our reasoning. People expect to get out what they put in.
Hello Drew, This topic seems to be more subjective than I first thought. My initial suggestion, and I stand by it, is to simply give people an option or two.
With all due respect I think it’s equally valid to say it wouldn’t be nice for people to later realize they had gigabytes of images where they had assumed them to be thumbnails or medium res. I would be surprised if many of your users stored all their documents in Agenda as a general repository. Most people would have photos them in Photos, other documents in Documents, and so on. Your app is fantastic for taking notes with attached dates, and occasionally I want to attach a photo, but for anything more significant I’d probably go for a more specialized app. As an aside it’s rumored that the new iPhones will take 48Mb photos and 8k video. I probably won’t store those in Agenda.
Naturally there are as many use cases as users, so it still may be reasonable to (as you say) default to full res, and then maybe a context option to reduce the size. Another option would be in prefs for the person who thinks about what they’re doing and only wants thumbnails to set a preferred size. In fact if that is set to full size you’re done, and if set to 800px or (or perhaps 10% for those 48mb photos) then a simple single touch verify after importing the image would suffice. I would probably go for the 800px which for most things is sufficient. If I’m doing anything remotely important I’ll shoot directly into photos or better.
Your app is fantastic. I don’t expect it to do everything or store everything, I just expect it to do what it does super well. So far so good.
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