Collapsing notes on iOS is very difficult

Hello,
many times I get into trouble collapsing notes on the iPhone (portrait mode, 8 Plus). Just now again, and it made me quite „upset“.
There is no space to collapse a note (double click „somewhere“ in the title area allows me to edit the headline of the note). I know to use the two-finger-gesture but also this works also not well if the note has only e.g. one line. It happens very easy to open/move the note below or above.
There should be one icon to expand (there is the „-") AND to collapse the note. Or a triangle like in Finder (to open folder) at the same location.
To use two different ways from the user for an action (expanding and collapsing an note) is not consequent.
Greetings,
Claus

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Agree with you on oddity of collapsing notes. My issue is more on double tapping. Usually double tap to select text but ended collapsing. Happened so many times. Don’t really like double tapping to collapse, prefer just +/-

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I find that double tapping on the circle next to note works great for expanding and collapsing the note.

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Another good reason to remove double tapping title to collapse

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Oh, I have to admit that I did not know this way - double tapping the circle to expand/collaps notes.

In my opinion also not very practical and „user friendly“. First, the note has to be selected, then a double tap works. If the note is not selected a double tap only selects it.
I have never seen that a double click/-tap on a a checkbox/button also results in an action.
Here we have a „button“ which includes three functions:

  1. the visual button/circle shows the status of the note (done/marked or not done/not marked),
  2. a single tap on the circle of a selected (!) note opens the menu for further actions connected to the note and
  3. a double tap on the circle of a selected (!) note expands/collapses the note. A double tap on the circle of a non-selected note just selects the note.

On the other side I see that there is only one „line" in the note for a lot of informations (title, date, status) and many functions (expanding, collapsing, pin note, change to foot note, mark as „Done“ or „On the Agenda“), so it is very tricky to include all this in this very limited space of the note. Maybe it makes sense to add a second line below the title for further actions/visible details. This would also allow to show more of the title itself.

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Note that you can get a menu item to do it using the dot.

We have big changes coming to the title area very soon, probably a week or two. Stay tuned for that.

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Exited to see the changes!

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Sadly, you’re losing your time… The developers seem they can’t be able to understanding our problems collapsing notes :man_facepalming:t2:

@delisau I really don’t understand your remark, you haven’t seen the changes we mention two posts above yours:

So how can you come to this conclusion?

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@delisau: Well, let us see what the update v11 brings.
I have to admit that I expect a lot and would like to see a complete new designed header of a note.

:thinking: Seeing is believing…

Some of us already talked about this some time ago, and all of you didn’t seem to understand it. All of you were even proud to use a - sign to expand :flushed:.

At least, that’s what I understood in those conversations. I will be waiting for the changes in updates you are talking about. I hope they satisfy us.

Yes, so my suggestion would be to first see and before posting these kind of remarks :sunglasses:

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